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Arenberg 1771-1810 (Germany)

Historical state in Rhineland-Palatinate

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[Aremberg 1792-1803 (Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany)] image by Jaume Ollé
used 1792-1803 (possibly 1771-1810) See also:

Arenberg 1792-1803 (possibly 1771-1810)

A yellow-red-blue horizontal tricolor, the red stripe twice as wide as the other two and having at its center a white disk with the arms of Aremberg. In use at least from 1792, conceivably as early as 1771, to 1803, but possibly as late as 1810 (when it was annexed by France, on 13 December 1810). Illustrated in outline in Flag Bulletin no. 93, p. 67.
Norman Martin, Apr 1998

The Name of the Duchy Aremberg is not corect  The name is "Arenberg". This is a famely lift in the "Eifel" a territorium near France in the south of Germany.
Aremberg is only the name of a little village in the possession of the counts of Arenberg.
Gerhard Wolf, 3 Feb 2007

Actually Aremberg is a municipality in the Verbandsgemeinde Adenau, Ahrweiler county, Rhineland-Palatinate, that is: a few miles West of Koblenz. Here we read (my translation:)
"The castle on the Aremberg peak was probably founded in the middle of the 12th century, and destroyed by the French in 1683. The Counts of Arenberg extended their possessions into Holland, Belgium and Switzerland, but retained their Arenberger territory, because that was the base for their promotion into the Imperial Countship (1549), the Princely status (1576) and the Dukedom (1644). The last reigning duke, Ludwig Engelbert, went into exile."
More here, with a blazoning of the arms: "drei Mispelblüten (Rosen) auf rotem Grund" - gules three medlar-blossoms (roses) argent.
It is not clear whether the flowers are medlars or roses..
There is a saga that Hartmann von Arburg (whose existence is in doubt) fell wounded under a medlar-tree. Three blossoms fell on the blood-drenched shield. That would explain the arms.
Others, like the first chronicler, Pater Karl, speak of roses. According to P.Wirtgen the arms were undountedly based on the rose of Altena.
In 1576 Margaretha von Arenberg had coins minted with the motto: Protector meus es tu (My Protector Are You)
In 1802 the Ducal house owned on the left bank of the Rhine 4 square miles, 1 townlet (Flecke), 11 villages with 508 houses and 2918 inhabitants.

The Lords of Arenberg owned also:
Arenberg-Meppen, in the Prussian district of Osnabrück: 2197 km2, 60.686 inh;
The county of Recklinghausen in Westphalia: 830 km2, 160.000 inh.
Large areas in Belgium and France. (perhaps the Forest of Wallers-Aremberg, the small bunch of trees and its excellent road, so loved by the cyclists in the Parijs-Roubeke race, - and its spectators)

Finally I found no trace of Papenburg or Papenberg in the Arenberg files, so that flag has been removed to Papenburg - not unlogically...
Jarig Bakker, 2 Feb 2010

The famous "trouée d'Arenberg" (Arenberg Trench, locally known as "Dreve des Boules d'Hérin")) was the road linking the village of Wallers to the colliery of Arenberg ("fosse d'Arenberg", opened by the Compagnie des Mines d'Anzin in 1899). The colliery was named for the former owner of the place, the lords of Arenberg.
The "trouée" was added to the route of Paris-Roubaix as advized by Jean Stablinski (1932-2007), a former coal miner in Arenberg, remembered by a stele inaugurated in 2008 at the entrance of the "trouée". Stablinksi used to say: "I am the only one to have crossed the "trouée" above and under the ground.
The Arenberg rose found its way on the flag of the Belgian municipalities of Hensies and Rebecq. Drogenbos kept the colours of the arms but dropped the roses from the flag. For more information se the website of the Arenberg Foundation.
Ivan Sache, 2 Feb 2010


Arenberg 1807

[Aremberg 1807 (Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany)] image by Jaume Ollé
reported 1907

A yellow-red-blue horizontal tricolor, having at its center the arms of Aremberg. This has a reported use in 1807. It is not clear if this refers to the same flag. If it does one of the reports would be mistaken. On the other hand this may represent a modification of the earlier design.
Norman Martin, Apr 1998


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