![[Hamburger Lloyd 9 stripes]](../images/d/de~hll_h.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 27 Aug 2008
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image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 27 Aug 2008
Image based on a photo of a life-size Hamburger Lloyd flag, nine stripes,
and canton of five stripes high. See also FOTW-ws for a drawing
plus a Berlin variant:
It is from German eBay offer no. 330041540474 (end 31 Oct 2006) put
up by "lz530" in an inelegant, but efficient, manner. Comments: straight
from the mast; somewhat worn and discoloured; woven (not specified); dimensions
given as 0.90 m x 1.35 m.
Jan Mertens, 27 Aug 2008
Lloyd AG; Basel and its daughters
The basic colour of all flags was yellow, superimposed by four or five
black stripes.
Hamburger Lloyd GmbH (aka Hamburger Lloyd Seeschiffahrt)
Was founded as another local branch by Rhein-Lloyd GmbH; Mannheim in
1938/or 1939. In 1948 Kurt Bernhold und Carl-Heinz Laß left the company
with permission of the board in Mannheim and they established, connected
with Lloyd AG; Basel, the Hamburger Lloyd Reederei und Transport GmbH.
Kurt Bernhold died on 5 September1962. His son Jürgen Bernhold made his
degree as a doctor on 22 December 1963 and has to overtake the company
ad hoc. Lloyd AG; Basel withdraws to Switzerland and is sold, the date
I don’t know.
Dr. Jürgen Bernhold establishes in 1963 a new Hamburger Lloyd and adds
one black stripe to the flag.
After quarrels between Lloyd AG; Basel and Dr. Jürgen Bernhold the
latter re-established the company as Hamburger Lloyd Dr. Jürgen Bernhold
GmbH & Co. KG;Hamburg – Duisburg – Rotterdam – Bendorf – Basel on 5
January 1981, so he finally also overtook Lloyd AG; Basel.
Until 1981 both flags (four and five black stripes) had been used side
by side.
Dr. Jürgen Bernhold establishes for fiscal reasons in 1971 the Binnentankreederei
Tietjens & Co.; Berlin-Spandau and the Hamburger Lloyd Tietjens &
Co. Schiffahrt KG; Hamburg. LudwigTietjens was an uncle of Dr. Jürgen
Bernhold.
In 1983 the headquarter of the Hamburger Lloyd was moved to Basel.
1997 Dr. Jürgen Bernhold had to leave the company after some dubious transactions.
The company was deleted from the register of commerce in Hamburg and in
Basel as well. The rest of the company was overtaken by Stolt-Nielsen.
The name Hamburger Lloyd was no longer a registered trade mark.
Klaus-Peter Bühne; translated by Klaus-Michael Schneider,
27 Mar 2009
![[LLoyd Seeschiffahrt]](../images/d/de~llse.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 26 Aug 2008
Hamburger Lloyd(?)
Description of flag: It is a horizontal 7-stripes flag with alternating
black and yellow stripes starting with a black one and a red canton with
a white “Hamburg-gate”, being the flag of the City of Hamburg.
Source: I spotted this flag on 20 February 2007 in Hamburg-Horn
Table flags spotted on flee markets are always a little bit risky.
They may have been hoisted upside down or have other faults. Normally there
should be 9 stripes on Hamburger Lloyd flags. It looks like a flag with
two stripes cut away.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 26 Aug 2008
Some time ago a real flag was offered on German eBay and it has nine
stripes allright. Put up (literally) by the man with the clothesline,
it is a handsome item I'll send a photo of.
But... another item offered was a table flag, as above but having only
seven stripes.
But... another item was a table flag, seven stripes, with the Antwerpen
city flag (with arms) in the canton.
"Flaggen auf dem Rhein" (1952) lists no fewer than four variants (none
of the above) but at least one of them is on FOTW-ws: Rhein-Fracht... albeit
under a different name!
Were the seven stripes once upped to nine? Or do humble table
flags have to do with merely seven?
To crown it all, a shipping company bearing the same name was founded
at Hamburg in 2006, thankfully using a different colour scheme.
Jan Mertens, 26 Aug 2008
Having seen both images I now believe, that I saw a flag of LLoyd Seeschiffahrt.
As Jan has also given a photo, I also believe that the canton of my image
was undersized.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 28 Aug 2008
![[Hamburger Lloyd]](../images/d/de~hll_b.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider and Eugene Ipavec, 28 Aug 2008
It is not the flag of Hamburger Lloyd itself, but according to Nuesse
a flag of a companies subsidiary.
It is a horizontal 9-stripes flag with alternating black and yellow
stripes starting with a black one. In the canton is a black bear in a red
field. So probably the company was a Berlin branch. Hamburger Lloyd had
been an inline-shipping company.
Source: I spotted this flag on 28 May 2004 in a pub in St.Pauli. The
flag was identified with the help of Josef Nuesse, Drochtersen on 25 September
2007.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 29 Sep 2007
![[Panocean Lloyd Tankschiffahrt]](../images/d/de~hllpo.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
In 1971 there was also the beginning of a joint venture with Panocean Shipping & Terminals Ltd. London, the Panocean Lloyd Tankschiffahrt GmbH; Hamburg (source: Hamburger Abendblatt). Both companies held 50% of the shares each.
Flag of Panocean Lloyd Tankschiffahrt GmbH; Hamburg: It is a 9-stripes
flag with horizontal alternating stripes of black and yellow. The flag
has a red canton with the white logo of Panocean Shipping and terminals;
four vertical tubes, two bowed to the hoist and the other two to the fly,
under each tube is a small disc.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
![[Reederei Hamburger Lloyd]](../images/d/de~rhl.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
Reederei Hamburger Lloyd GmbH & Co KG (RHL)
After the trademark “Hamburger Lloyd” was expired in 1997, the Hanse
Hamburg Shipping International GmbH & Co KG (HHSI) and the private
bank M.M. Warburg & Co KGaA made a joint venture, overtook the name
and founded the RHL in 2006, which had nothing to do with the former company,
led by Dr. J. Bernhold.
The main tasks are technical ship management, freighting service and
operative consulting.
Furthermore for external customers the company is involved in technical
and commercial ship management, chartering, operational management, sale
and purchase, and finally newbuilding. Befrachtungscontor Hamburg
Gmbh&Co KG (BCH) is partner of RHL sharing with its partner the same
building at Dornbusch 2; 20095 Hamburg.
Last but not least RHL attends on four container ships of Knöhr&Burchardt
NfL, which are managed in the technical sector by Wappen-Reederei.
Description of flag of RHL: The flag is divided by a black saltire into
white (top and bottom) and red (hoist and fly). Upon the red quarters are
white serifed capitals “H” (hoist) and “L” (fly)
Source: I spotted this flag on 20 February 2009 at Alster-Terassen
in Hamburg while enjoying a nice Hacker-Pschorr Weißbier (ohne Schuß).
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
![[Befrachtungscontor Hamburg]](../images/d/de~bch.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
Befrachtungscontor Hamburg Gmbh&Co KG (BCH):
Description of flag of BCH: It is flag divided by saltire into white(top
and bottom) and red(hoist and fly). In the centre of the flag is a white
disc with a red shield divided twice by a thin white barrulet. Beneath
the shield is a black “U”. I believe, it symbolizing a ship carrying three
red containers.
Source: Information provided by Klaus-Peter Bühne, 24 February
2009
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
![[Hanse Hamburg Shipping International]](../images/d/de~hhsl.gif)
image by Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
Hanse Hamburg Shipping International GmbH & Co KG (HHSI):
Description of flag of HHSI: It is a white flag with a celestial blue
trapezium near the hoist joined by a blue angle like a bottoms up “L”.
There is also a two line inscription of the same colour: “HANSA HAMBURG”
over “SHIPPING”.
Source: Information provided by Klaus-Peter Bühne, 24 February
2009
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 27 Mar 2009
