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Martin Grieve, 26 October 2008
The ensign in regular use is a normal Blue Ensign with a white lighthouse. Northern Lights is the General Lighthouse Authority in Scotland and the Isle of Man. Trinity House is the General Lighthouse Authority for England, Wales, Channel Islands and Gibraltar, and responsible for pilotage throughout the UK. Amongst other flags, it has a defaced Red Ensign, which 'ought to be' blue. Until 1864 vessels in the service of certain UK public offices defaced the Red Ensign with the badge of their office. In that year they were directed to transfer the badge to a Blue Ensign. For some reason Trinity House didn't do it and still have their badge of four Elizabethan ships quartered on a rectangular panel, applied to a Red Ensign.
David Prothero, 17 April 1997
The new version of this flag has a shorter "stubby" lighthouse which makes good
sense as it is more visible and distinguishable than the slender
Bell Rock one.
Martin Grieve, 26 October 2008
![[Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Commissioner's flag]](../images/g/gb~nlbc.gif)
image by
Martin Grieve, 26 October 2008
"Flags of the General Lighthouse Authority for Scotland and the Isle of Man, namely, the Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses:
The Board is constituted in accordance with an Act of Parliament passed in 1786. Their flag has a white field, two by one, with the Union Flag (1606 pattern) in the first quarter, and a representation of a lighthouse, in blue, in the fly. There appears to be no record of the date of origin; however, in the absence of the St. Patrick's Cross in the Union, it seems probable that it was adopted before 1801. It is flown at the main masthead when the Commissioners are embarked; in addition, they fly their "Pennant" at the masthead. The title of the last mentioned is rather misleading in that this flag functions much in the same way as a house-flag or yacht burgee. It is blue and bears a white cross, charged with a very narrow red cross; in the first quarter, the lighthouse in white. The Ensign is the Blue Ensign defaced with the lighthouse in white; this is worn in tenders and flown on lighthouses and depots on shore. It was adopted in 1855."
from: Carr (1961)
Jarig Bakker, 28 August 2001
Am I right in thinking that the Commissioners of Northern Lights flag is the only flag using the "Old Union Jack" (with no red saltire) as a canton?
James Dignan, 18 December 1995
From memory, and possibly this is no longer true, but I think the answer is yes. The Commissioners of Northern Lights is the lighthouse authority of Scotland. According to my trusty Whitaker's the Commissioners of Northern Lights was founded in 1786, which might explain its anachronistic usage.
Roy Stilling, 18 December 1995
I recently saw in Edinburgh a flag of the Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses;
the Commissioner's flag. I was very interested in the fact that it shows the old
pre-1801 Union flag. I took a photograph.
Christopher Fear, 30 October 2003
Interestingly, the canton in the photograph shows not just the design of the
pre-1801 flag, but also it looks like it shows it in the pre-1801 proportions!
That canton
is surely 2:3 or similar, and is far less than half of the flag's length.
James Dignan 31 October 2003
The illustration on this page is probably based on that in BR20, Change No.5
(prepared by Graham Bartram), which also shows the canton with proportions of
1:2. This as far as I know, is the nearest we have in the UK to an official
image. It would also appear that the fimbriation to the St George is too narrow
on the flag in question, as it has apparently been approximately one-third of
flag width from the beginning? The earliest official image of the 1606 pattern
Union Flag is dated 1707, and this has that width of fimbriation so it sounds as
if a little imagination has been at work? Neither is there any real
justification for the canton proportions of 2:3. This, indeed, would have been
roughly the ratio of jacks c1700, but the official illustration of 1707 shows
proportions of 3:4, while about 4:7 (or slightly longer) would have been
customary by the middle of the 18th Century and 1:2 by its end.
Christopher Southworth, 31 October 2003
In an article entitled 'Flags and Pennants' that appeared in the Christmas 2001
Journal of the Northern Lighthouse Board, Bob Brownlie wrote:
"Why do our Commissioners' Flags bear the Union Flag of 1606 when the
Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses were incorporated in 1786? The answer is
surprisingly simple, bearing in mind the Royal Proclamation of 1801 (which
introduced the present Union with a red saltire). The Commissioners decided in
1803 that as there was a large stock of the old flags still in existence they
would not restock until the old flags were used up. From fiscal prudence are
traditions born - it came to be that the Commissioners continued to wear the old
flag. Our tenders wear the flag flown by Government vessels. This is
described as 'a Blue Ensign defaced with a lighthouse symbol in the fly' and
this rightly bears the present Union Flag."
However this leaves some other questions unanswered. Why was the
flag white? Was it always the Commissioners' Flag, or did it originally
have some other purpose? When, after 1801, did the Board begin ordering new
flags with the obsolete canton?
The defaced ensigns/jacks of ships operated by various commissions
before 1864 were red, but since lighthouse boards were not specifically
mentioned in the Royal Proclamations that introduced the defaced Red Ensigns,
the Northern Lighthouse Commissioners may have felt free to devise their own
ensign, and chose to have one in Scottish colours. It may even have been an
allusion to the flag of an Admiral of the Scottish Navy, which until 1707 was a
blue anchor on a white flag. If the "large stock of old flags" was particularly
large and the flags used only on special occasions and carefully stored, the
stock could have lasted for many years. Perhaps the flag did not become
specifically the Flag of the Commissioners until after the Board's Blue Ensign
was adopted ? According to "Flags of the World" books edited successively by
H.Greshan Carr, E.M.C.Barraclough and W.G.Crampton this was 1855. However that
was nine years before the Order in Council that made the Blue Ensign defaced
with the badge of office the proper ensign for vessels employed in the service
of any public office, and a more likely date of 12 December 1885 is in Malcolm
Farrow's "Colours of the Fleet".
David Prothero, 28 March 2006
![[Pennant of commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Commissioner's flag]](../images/g/gb~nlbj.gif)
image
by Martin Grieve, 27 October 2008
Capt. Malcolm Farrow stated in the publication "Colours
of the Fleet" on page 14 of the original version:
"Although Jacks are not
discussed in this paper it should be noted that public service departments are
authorised to use a square version of their Blue Ensign as a Jack. Currently
only RFA, RMAS, Marine Society and NLB vessels are believed to do this."
Martin Grieve, 27 October 2008
![[Pennant of commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Commissioner's flag]](../images/g/gb~nlbcp.gif)
image
by Martin Grieve, 26 October 2008
based on
Bartram (2004)
The pennant is blue and bears a white cross, charged with a very narrow red
cross; in the first quarter, the lighthouse in white.
Jarig Bakker, 28 August 2001
Note that the 3 windows on the lighthouse in canton are "filled" deep blue
whilst the white lighthouse which defaces the blue ensign shows these features
only as a deep blue outline.
Martin Grieve, 27 October 2008
![[Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Ensign]](../images/g/gb~nlbcfb.gif)
image by Martin Grieve, 2 November 2008
The more slender lighthouse on the older versions of this flag are based upon
the lighthouse on the Bell Rock in Scotland.
Martin Grieve, 26 October
2008
![[Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Ensign]](../images/g/gb~nlbcffb.gif)
image by Martin Grieve, 2 November 2008
Source: Flaggenbuch (1939
![[Pennant of commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Commissioner's flag]](../images/g/gb~nlbcpfb.gif)
image
by Martin Grieve, 26 October 2008
Source: Flaggenbuch (1939
Note that the red cross is thicker on the new version of this pennant.
Martin Grieve, 2 November 2008
Another variant of the flag:
![[Commissioners of Northern Lighthouses - Commissioner's flag]](../images/g/gb~nlbcg0.jpg)
image by Laird Keir, 25 August 2014
This variant has a wider base, and more windows. And with more detail you'd see
the structure is different as well. This version is visible on the internet as a
quite new flag in several places, but nothing looking as original as this.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 25 August 2014
On Flags of Empire is another specimen:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NMh8Kb8HCyw/TgoaJ7jyoiI/AAAAAAAAgpA/Qlp3URjQT4c/s400/1.
Apparently, the fact that most had to be produced locally lead to some
variation, as this one is fringed and has "CROYDON" below the emblem.
And
then there's
http://web.archive.org/web/20130612060340/http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt104/vor033/daily
pics/c0f8c277.jpg, but I don't know how to trace that to the annotation page
that no longer exists either, but may have been archived as well.
Peter
Hans van den Muijzenberg, 25 August 2014
The details of the lighthouse will have varied over the years of course, and the
nearest thing we have to an official image of the current version can be seen on
Graham Bartram's site at
http://www.flags.net/UNKG13.htm (since he is the Editor of BR20 (the MOD
publication). The only way to (very approximately) date a flag bearing this
design is to compare the actual flag with the various copies of BR20 (Flags of
All Nations) that have been produced over the years.
Christopher
Southworth, 26 August 2014
![[Scottish Lighthouse Board]](../images/g/gb~gbslb.gif)
located by Jarig Bakker, 28 August 2001
![[Scottish Lighthouse Board]](../images/g/gb_nlc.jpg)
located by David Prothero, 10 March 2006
Source: Brown's Standards and Flags of All Nations
The Bahama/Sombrero badge was flown by the tender Ana Patricia until about 1971 when it was replaced by the Board of Trade Blue Ensign [Bahamian Symbols by Whitney Smith in The Flag Bulletin XIV:2-3], but the lighthouse at Sombrero, on special occasions, flew the Wheel and Anchor Blue Ensign of the Ministry of Transport, which had taken over the Board of Trade's transport responsibilities in, I think, the early 1950's [Public Record Office document MT 45/580].
David Prothero, 18 November 2000
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