![[Scottish Fisheries Board]](../images/g/gb-sf.gif)
by Graham Bartram
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The modern ensign features a Scottish crown and the initials for the old
Department of Agriculture and Fisheries, Scotland (DAFS). The new name is
Department for Rural Affairs, but the flag has not been updated.
Graham Bartram, 29 September 2002
![[Scottish Fisheries Board]](../images/g/gb-sfb.gif)
by Clay Moss
The badge is described in Carr (1961) as,
"... a foul anchor, the anchor on yellow and the cable in black, between the
initials in white
'S F'. The Royal Crown in full colour is placed above, and the design is
completed by a wreath of thistles in yellow."
The ensign is now used by two agencies of the Scottish Executive Rural Affairs
Department, the Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency and the
Fisheries Research Service. The badge was not matriculated by Lord Lyon until
1988. The crown on the badge, being the Scottish Crown, has
raised arches.
Graham Bartram, 29 September 2002
I work for in the maritime operations section of Marine Scotland, a
directorate of the Scottish Government previously called the Scottish Fisheries
Protection Agency. I noticed that the current ensign on the Flags of the World
website differs from the one flown by our vessels. I have a photo online at
https://picasaweb.google.com/108451753250798302542/Minna2012#5768402419964133698
but it's not very clear so I've attached a
photo of a wall plaque I have.
Liam Mason, 26 January 2012
The flag in [Liam Mason's] photo is the 'former' Scottish Fisheries ensign -
or rather 'former former' ensign, since the crown on the flag is neither the
Scottish Crown nor the St. Edward's Crown of England, but the Imperial State
Crown as used on British emblems before 1952!
(I do not think this
particular flag is an old stock - rather the manufacturer might just copy the
badge from an old template without bother checking whether it is still current.)
Miles Li, 27 January 2013
![[Scottish Fisheries Board badge]](../images/g/gb)sfb2.gif)
by Clay Moss
For details of the Scottish crown, see this page.
![[Scottish Fisheries Board badge]](../images/g/gb)sfb.gif)
by Clay Moss
This image is based on the illustration in the 1915 edition of the Admiralty
Flag Book. The design is correct but the colours are wrong.
The Scottish Fisheries Board was established in 1882 and the Blue Ensign with
this badge granted 26 March 1885. The original drawing was lost. In 1923 it was
pointed out that the ground should be blue, the letters F B white, the thistle
and anchor yellow, and the crown yellow and red. In 1924, Amendment 7,
authorised by NL5304/23 was supposed to correct the mistake but had green
thistles with white seed. Another amendment was issued, publicised in Admiralty
Fleet Order of 3 April 1925 stating that the wreath of thistles should be
yellow.
Public Record Office ADM 1/8685/156.
David Prothero, 31 July 2002
The illustration here came from a set of old encyclopædia flag drawings dated
1888. I'm not sure which encyclopædia set they come from as I have only the
pages. The printer and date are printed below in what must be a half-point font.
The only personal liberty I took with this drawing was to make the flowered
ends lavender as they show up in the thistles on the Rhodesian shield.
Otherwise, I drew the emblem up exactly as it appears.
I also have the same illustration in my 1898 US Navy "Flags
of Maritime Nations". In this drawing, the letters "F & B" are green,
and the crown is similar to the modern crown. I'm also curious to know if a rope
or length of chain winds around the anchor. Of the 4 illustrations I have, 2
have a chain, and 2 have a rope. The Flaggenbuch has the type blue background
yellow thistle illustration David mentions, but the letters seem to be grey(?).
It's very similar to the
coloured illustration in the back of Longueville's
book.
Clay Moss, 31 July 2002
The 1889 edition of the Admiralty Flag Book shows a white background, crown
in full colour above a yellow anchor, fouled with black chain, green thistles
with white petals, initials F B in green with diagonal hatching. The 1907
and 1915 editions show the same except that the bulbous part of the thistle
flower is yellow, hatched grey, and the initials F B are yellow with diagonal
hatching. In the 1930 edition it shows a blue background, yellow thistle
with white petals. Initials F B now white but still with diagonal hatching. The
black chain fouling the anchor unchanged, so that with a blue background it is
invisible except where it crosses the anchor.
It would appear that in about 1950, the Fishery Board for Scotland, became
the Scottish Home Department Fisheries Division, and the initials on the badge
changed from F B to S F . The first is in Campbell
and Evans' Book of Flags 1950 edition, and the second in the
1953 edition.
There are incorrect drawings of the first badge in the 1889, 1907 and
1915 editions of the Admiralty Flag Book.
The crown on the SF badge it is a Scottish Crown,
which looks similar to a Tudor Crown.
David Prothero, 10 August 2002
![[Scottish Fisheries Board badge]](../images/g/gb)sfb85.gif)
by Martin Grieve, 1 August 2009
![[Scottish Fisheries Board ensign]](../images/g/gb~sfb85.gif)
by Martin Grieve, 1 August 2009
In the British Admiralty flag book of 1889, Plate 22, the blue ensign
defacement of the Fishery Board for Scotland is shown. David Prothero points out
that the colours are incorrect: The vegetation should be yellow instead of green
and the background should be blue. In other words, the badge is not on a white
circle, but is placed directly on to the fly of the British blue ensign.
Furthermore, the letters FB should be in white as opposed to green as shown in
the book. The mistake, as David points out, was identified after the 1916
publication and was supposed to be corrected in the 1925 amendment, but this
failed to materialise and an erroneous drawing persisted.
Presumably, the colours should always have been those mentioned in the
correction notice and so, the 1885 Admiralty flag book was also inaccurate? I
have re-drawn the defacement from that edition with the colour corrections
described. This detail has a Victorian-style crown, which was changed to Tudor.
You could say that I am 124 years late I suppose.
Martin Grieve, 1
August 2009
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