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by T.F. Mills
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There have been three basic 'crown shapes' on British flags, though there
are variations within each basic shape.
David Prothero, 23 February 1999, 27, 30 September 2000
I am posting drawings of the imperial or Tudor crown (1902-1953) and the St Edward's crown (1953-present). As was noted above, the Victorian crowns were not very well regulated and there are numerous variations. But the Tudor and St. Edward's crowns are very well regulated. There was a transition period of up to five years (1953-58) for the adoption of the St. Edward's crown in many institutions, and there were, of course, exceptions where it was never updated.
T.F. Mills, 24 February 1999
Contemporary documents in 1901 and for some time after that refer to the "Imperial Crown" mean the real "Imperial State Crown" and not the iconographic Tudor Crown. What we now call the Imperial Crown bears a very strong resemblance to the small diamond crown that Queen Victoria had made in 1870 (perhaps more so than the Tudor Crown) because she found the Imperial State Crown to be too heavy. Surely Edward VII was conscious of this when he standardised crown design in iconography? (Note that 1870 is before Victoria became Empress of India in 1876, so that imperial status seems to be irrelevant -- at least initially.) Another "British Crown of India" was made for the 1911 Delhi Durbar (because British crown jewels may not leave Britain). It looks a little like the 1901 "Imperial Crown" but less so than 1870 crown. Not that the 1870 crown was never used in iconography to represent "the Crown" in Victoria's time except as part of her portraits.
T.F. Mills, 9 September 2004
During Queen Victoria's reign we used a crown that had two arches, similar to
the modern St. Edward's crown but with bulkier and less smoothly curved arches.
In 1901 Edward VII introduced a new crown, based on a Tudor design, and called
the "Imperial Crown" because he was an Emperor. The name has no connection to
the Imperial State Crown. Why he chose the Tudor design I don't know, but it has
been suggested that he thought it looked more "imperial", but unless David can
dig up something from the PRO I guess we will never know. This crown was used
until 1952/3 when Elizabeth II came to the throne. She was the first British
monarch since William IV not to be an Emperor/ess and she decided to
change back to the more traditional crown design of Victoria and her Hanoverian
predecessors. This design was roughly based on the St. Edward's crown used at
the coronation and so was called the St. Edward's crown (it's not an accurate
drawing of the physical crown, only a heraldic approximation).
Because the Queens Victoria and Elizabeth II both had similar style crowns and
all Kings between them shared a different design the two designs are sometimes
called the Queen's Crown and the King's Crown, but this is a misnomer. Charles
will almost certainly retain the St. Edward's design.
Another area of confusion is the term "imperial" - the heralds (both College of
Arms and Court of Lord Lyon) have taken up the habit of referring to any
Royal crown as "imperial". So technically the St. Edward's crown is "imperial".
This cause even more confusion in Scotland which has a third design of crown
(the Scottish crown logically enough), which is also
"imperial"! Which is why the Scottish Royal Arms used officially still have a
Tudor style crown on them. (Actually this was a drawing done in George V's time
and no-one noticed the problem in 1952). When I wanted a drawing of the Scottish
Royal Arms as they should look like I had to do my own original drawing and
present it to Lord Lyon. Incidentally the heralds still use the term "imperial"
for the crown, they just mean the current crown.
So to summarize, "imperial" is a pointless term to describe British crowns (they
are all "imperial"), so use Victorian, Tudor, St. Edward's or Scottish and we
will know which design you mean. Similarly King's Crown and Queen's Crown are
inaccurate descriptions and should be avoided (especially as real Queens'
crowns, such as that for the Queen Mother tend to be more in the Tudor style!)
Graham Bartram, 9 September 2004
I have found two documents which shed some light on the origin and correct
name of the 1901 heraldic crown.
Crowns were described as Imperial, both before and after 1901. In 1903 Edward
VII granted the title "Royal" to the Canadian Mounted Rifles. The War Office
were in some doubt as to how the badge should be described in the Army List and
consulted Albert Woods, Garter King of Arms and Inspector of Regimental Colours.
As a result the descriptions of the badges of the Royal Canadian Artillery,
Royal Canadian Dragoons, and Royal Canadian Regiment were changed from " The
Imperial Cypher VRI surmounted by the Imperial Crown ", to " The Royal Cypher
ensigned by the Imperial Crown ".
[WO 32/4337]
The 1901 heraldic crown was the Tudor Henry VII crown, and even though
instituted by King Edward VII, was actually the choice of Queen Victoria. The
crown was only gradually introduced as existing items needed to be replaced.
A drawing of the new badge for guns was sealed on approval 14th March 1901. It
was similar to the badge that had been stamped on guns during Queen Victoria's
reign with an angular St Edward's crown, and only the royal cypher changed. A
new drawing with a 1901 crown was sealed on approval 10th July 1901.
This is one of the letters in the document.
War Office, London SW. May 1901. 61002[over]7078.
Sir,
I am directed by the Secretary of State for War to acquaint you that His Majesty
the King has selected and approved the above Royal Cypher (see
image) to be worn on badges, buttons and
other devices throughout the Service, wherever the Royal Cypher is at present
borne. The design has been made plain, without foliation, at His Majesty's
express wish.
I am to state that no deviation from it whatever will be permitted, and no
device or ornament will be placed above or upon it.
In connection therewith, His Majesty has brought to notice that on
accoutrements, colours, buttons, etc., there are no less than six or seven
totally different pattern Crowns. Some of them are Foreign Continental Crowns ;
others are different deviations of the British Crown. His majesty now wishes one
uniform Crown alone to become the sealed pattern for the Service, - the Tudor,
"Henry VII" Crown, chosen and always used by Queen Victoria personally; all
other patterns are to be abolished.
The correct design is shown above the Royal Cypher. It will be taken into wear
when new accoutrements, etc., are required, and all Officers are instructed to
obtain the correct pattern when renewing any article of uniform hereby affected.
No Officer is to be encouraged or even allowed to carry out the changes
indicated until the articles he now possesses are worn out.
The provision of correct patterns is now proceeding, and steps will be taken to
insert them in Regimental boxes of badges as opportunity offers.
I am, Sir, Your obedient Servant, Evelyn Wood. A.G. [Adjutant General].
[National Archives (PRO) WO 32/9028]
David Prothero, 27 September 2004
I have heard two competing explanations for the change in the crown:
The first is just an urban legend. All British Kings and Queens are crowned with the St Edward's crown, and all wore the Imperial State crown to open parliament, so there is no King's Crown as opposed to Queen Regnant's crown. Of course there are a whole set of Queen Consorts' crowns. The Queen Mother still uses the Imperial Crown on her arms and flags.
I believe the second one is the true reason. When the Queen came to the throne
it was felt appropriate to change the crown (so it changed in 1952/53 not 1947)
to reflect the fact that she was not Empress of India, and that the British
Empire was being dismantled.
Graham Bartram, 28 September 2000
The concept of King's and Queen's Crowns (KC, QC) is a misconception which is very prevalent among military badge collectors. Even the most authoritative books on badges make this mistake. It is just a coincidence that four male monarchs have been represented by the "KC" followed by a female with the "QC". Who actually wears what real crown is somewhat unrelated to the representation of the Crown as state symbol.
Prior to the accession of Edward VII (1902), the iconographic Crown was unregulated. Some people refer to the "Victorian Crown", which more closely resembled the Elizabethan St. Edward's Crown than the Tudor/Imperial Crown, but in actual fact Crowns in the Victorian era were very much at the mercy of artistic whim, and there was no standard. Edward VII, who invented state pomp and pageantry as we know it today (after 60 years of disinterest from Victoria), regulated the shape of the Crown. It is my (undocumented) theory that he preferred the domed shape to give it more dignity and majesty in reference to the other European imperial crowns. I believe it was originally called the Tudor crown because it was modelled on one worn by Henry VII, and it came to be called the Imperial Crown because its image was standardised throughout the Empire.
George VI relinquished the title "Emperor of India" in June 1948. Elizabeth II
apparently followed through on this gesture by abolishing the Imperial Crown in
iconography since it had become associated with an obsolete title. It should be
noted that the sovereign was emperor/empress in India only, and that there never
was a real "British Empire" -- only a haphazard system of nations. In changing
the Crown, Elizabeth II did not presage the dissolution of the Empire. That,
too, was a coincidence.
T.F. Mills, 29 September 2000
All Tudor regalia was destroyed after the English Civil War, but details of the
crowns are known from seals, coins etc. The 1901 heraldic crown is not like
either of the crowns of Henry VII. A crown
that appears to be a cross between these two was used on the
1870 flags of Newfoundland. The
crown of Henry VIII is a little more like
the 1901 heraldic crown.
David Prothero, 14 September 2004
The changed shape of crowns on flags after the accession of Edward VII in
1901 was the result of standardising the design. I imagine that the domed
crown was chosen because it was the one the King preferred. There seems no
reason for the change after 1952, except that it was the choice of the
Queen. If the change was intended to have some symbolic significance, the
meaning should have been obvious, or the significance of the new shape
should have been promulgated. Shortly after I joined the Navy in 1952,
badges were being changed for those having the new crown, but no explanation
or reason for the change was announced. A new Royal Cypher is designed at
the beginning of each new reign, and is approved by the sovereign before
becoming official. Perhaps the appearance of the crown emblem that will be
used during the reign is part of that process?
David Prothero, 30 September 2000
T.F. Mills wrote, "Why he [Edward VII] chose the Tudor design I don't know, but
it has been suggested that he thought it looked more "imperial", but unless
David can dig up something from the PRO I guess we will never know.
In response: All that I dug up was in an extract from 'The English Regalia' by
Cyril Davenport, which is reproduced in A.C. Fox-Davies' 'A
Complete Guide to Heraldry':
"St Edward's crown is the crown supposed to be heraldically represented when for
State or official purposes the crown is represented over the Royal Arms or other
insignia. In this the fleurs-de-lis upon the rim are only half fleurs-de-lis.
This detail is scrupulously adhered to, but during the reign of Queen Victoria
many of the other details were very much 'at the mercy' of the artist. Soon
after the accession of King Edward VII the matter was brought under
consideration, and the opportunity afforded by the issue of a War Office Sealed
Pattern of the Royal Crown and Cypher for use in the army was taken advantage of
to notify his Majesty's pleasure, that for official purposes the Royal Crown
should be as shown in this image, which is
a reproduction of the War Office Sealed Pattern already mentioned. It should be
noted that whilst the cap of the real crown is of purple velvet, the cap of the
heraldic crown is always represented as of crimson"
There are no PRO document titles that appear to be relevant, though the title is
not always a good guide to all the contents of a document.
Here is
the Kew National Archives search facility. If anyone wants to browse and finds
an interesting document name, I will investigate.
David Prothero, 14 September 2004
I do not think that there is any specific requirement to change the crown on
a flag. Flags designed since 1953 have a St Edward's crown (unless they are
Scottish); flags designed before 1953 continued with the existing Tudor
crown until they needed replacing. The design of crown then used on the
replacement flag is a matter of choice. There is nothing to say that the
replacement of a 'pre-1953 flag' must have a St Edward's crown. It can be
made to the original pattern with a Tudor crown, or have a St Edward's
crown.
David Prothero, 1 March 2005
There may be regulations that deal with the change of crown not just on
flags but on items related to government in general (and that therefore we
may be searching the wrong documents). I note, for instance, that British
stamps changed their official watermarks from the Tudor Crown to the St
Edward's Crown in about 1955.
James Dignan, 1 March 2005
James is almost certainly right in his conjecture, in so far as the change
in Crowns was very probably the result of an Order in Council and to get a
copy from the Privy Council Office will require a date (and hopefully a
title) since records of that vintage are kept in paper form which will
require a physical search. If nothing else, the wording would be useful.
Christopher Southworth, 1 March 2005
The instruction that changed the design of representations of the British
Crown in 1952 was HD 4947, the 667th Report of the Committee on the Grant of
Honours, Decorations and Medals.
"The Queen has seen HD 4946 [previous report of the committee] on the
subject of the Royal Cypher and the designs of the representation of the
crown. Her Majesty's wishes with regard to the design of representations of
the crown where used with the Royal Cypher or otherwise, are as follows.
