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by Željko Heimer, 3 November 2001
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The arms of Hungary are: per pale, barry of 8, gules and
argent, gules, a cross lorraine argent, rising out of a crown or
on a compartment vert.
Josh Fruhlinger, 9 April 1996
The crown on the Hungarian arms is the Crown of St. Stephen,
an actual crown that was used to crown the Hungarian kings. In
the 18th century the cross on the crown was bent and since then
it is so depicted on the Hungarian arms.
Nahum Shereshevsky, 11 May 1997
The Lorraine cross appeared as part of the Hungarian Coat of
Arms in the 12thCentury as a symbol of the King or of the kingdom
(a privilege was grantedby pope Sylvester II to king St. Stephen
in 1000 that he may have carried anapostolic (i.e., Lorraine)
cross in front of him (hence the title ofHungarian kings, esp.
emphasized from Maria Theresia: "N. Dei gratia apostolic
king of Hungary"). Back to the Coat of Arms: in or around
the movements of 1848, the Slovak nationalist (and/or patriot,
depending on the viewpoint) L'udovit Stur created the national
symbol of the Slovak people based on his idea that the Lorraine
cross and the hill resemble the original Slovak (or, better to
say, Great-Moravian) symbols before the Hungarian campaign of the
Carpathean basin around 896. In fact, there is a legend which
appeared in the codices in the 12th-13th century that Hungarian
duke Arpad bought the northern part of the Carpathean basin from
the Duke of Great Moravia for a horse or something like that. The
hills might resemble that part of the Carpathean basin which, in
the opinion of L'udovit Stur, belongs to the Slovaks, as, in his
opinion, the Slovaks are direct descendants of the Duchy of Great
Moravia, while the cross might resemble the Catholic faith
planted into the Moravians by missionaries St. Cyrill &
Method. (In the Hungarian heraldry, the three hills resemble
Hungarian mountains Tatra, Matra & Fatra, out of which only
Matra belongs to Hungary since the Trianon dictate of 1920.)
The Lorraine cross with the crown on a green three-topped hill as
the left part of the Hungarian small Coat of Arms, has been used
since 12th-13th century, and since the 16th century it has been
standardized.
David N. Biacsi, 24 January 1999
From 'Courrier International' (#466. 7 October 1999), after
the weekly Hungarian newspaper 'Heti Vila'ggazdasa'g':
"Will the crown of the Magyar kings be included in the
legislation of the Hungarian Republic? The Minister of Justice
proposes to add in year 2000 - for the celebration of the
millenium of the foundation of the state - a new preamble to the
Constitution. The text would state, inter alia, that: 'the Holly
Crown which ornates the current arms of our country, which
symbolizes State and which expresses the allegiance of Hungarians
to the noble traditions coming from a 1,000-year old state,
played an exceptional role in the history of our country.' "
The coat of arms with the crown can be seen above. Its use on the
unofficial state flag is also described here.
Ivan Sache , 17 October 1999
The Coat of Arms with the crown is fully incorporated in the
Hungarian legislation, but possibly there is no explicit
statement as above. The inclusion of such statement, which would
certainly mean something as symbolic and political sign in the
Cosntitution, would be of little impact on the flags which would
not be changed, as far as I understood.
Željko Heimer, 18 October 1999
BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) - Hungary's center-right government
plans to kick off the new millennium by restoring the royal crown
of St. Stephen as the symbol of the Hungarian state - a
controversial decision at home and abroad
Jaume Ollé, 12 December 1999
There must be something more which can't be seen from this
extract, since the crown of St. Stephen is already part of the
coat of arms of Hungary, and (unofficially, but often, as part of
the Coat of Arms) also on the flag. I have not been following the
flag-related political development in Hungary, but IIRC, the
rightists are very much fond of introducting the flag with Coat
of Arms as official (and possibly only) flag of Hungary, instead
of the simple tricolor.
Željko Heimer, 13 December 1999
The Slovak Coat of Arms and the
dexter half of the Hungarian Coat of Arms are remarkably similar.
Only differences: Slovak Coat of Arms is a white cross of
Lorraine on a blue mount composed of three hills, on a red
background. The Hungarian Coat of Arms is a white cross of
Lorraine with a crown at the base on a green hill composed of
three hills on a red background.
There is no doubt about the use of the arms with the Lorraine
cross by Arpad and further dynasties ruling the Hungarian
territories. But there is archaelogical evidence that this symbol
was used in the area inhabited by Slav (later Slovak) population
before the Hungarians conquered the Carpatian Basin. This old
Christian symbol was brought to Great Moravia by the Byzantine
priests Constantine (Cyrill) and Method. This doesn't refute the
theory of the pope as the donator of cross for king Stephen but
shows that Slovaks have certain rights to consider this cross as
theirs. In Hungarian history this cross is first noticed on the
shield of king Bela III. in 1189 and it is a frequent symbol in
Slovak municipal heraldry. Ludovit Stur (1815 - 1856) took the
Hungarian royal coat of arms and used it with an appropriate
change of colours as a Slovak national symbol. The main fact why
Slovaks used Hungarian coat of arms was that they simply felt a
historical bond with the Hungarian state - the coat of arms
belonged to them as well as to Hungarians or for example Serbians
who lived within the boundaries of Hungarian kingdom. They only
painted it with the colours they liked more because they
represented the pan-Slav or Austro-Slav idea.
Jan Kravcik, 6 June 2000
A stamp with historical Coat of Arms from the legendary TURUL
to nowadays can be seen at <www.historicaltextarchive.com>.
István Molnár, 6 June 2001
From the
pages of the Embassy of the Republic of Hungary in Zagreb:
The chief emblem of a country, symbolizing its history, is its
national coat of arms. The changes in Hungary's coat of arms duly
reflect the main junctures in the nation's history.
Most modern states have coats of arms whose content has been
hallowed by long tradition and usage. The scale of the public
acceptance gained by a country's coat of arms rests not only on
laws and regulations, but on how well its citizens recognize and
relate to the devices it contains. A coat of arms is more than a
distinctive mark. It is an inclusive image, imbedded in a
country's specific national and historical traditions.
In Hungary's case, the oldest component of the historical coat of
arms reinstated in 1990 is the patriarchal cross. This became a
national symbol some 800 years ago. Having appeared on coins
towards the end of the 12th century, it then became part of the
coat of arms, on a red field.
The triple mound appeared more than a century later, probably
through the new ruling house, which had ties of kinship with
Naples. The cross originally stood on three feet, which developed
into the mounds.
The bars on the other side of the shield appeared in the late
12th or early 13th century, probably through Spanish influence,
as the ruling house had a connection there. The shield has been
ensigned with the national crown, which took its place there more
than 600 years ago.
The Hungarian coat of arms has undergone many changes. Every
device on it can be linked with important struggles. Wars, peace
treaties, civil strife, revolutions, dethronements, the fall of
dynasties and systems, and other historical upheavals wrought
changes on the coat of arms at the time.
The Hungarian Parliament chose to reinstate the country's
historical coat of arms in the summer of 1990. This so-called
crowned, lesser coat of arms consists of a pointed, impaled
shield. The left-hand side ("dexter" as you shelter
behind it) has a barry of eight, gules (red) and argent (silver).
The other side has a gules field with a patriarchal cross argent
rising from a crown or (gold) on a triple mound vert (green). The
shield is ensigned with the Hungarian Crown.
István Molnár, 30 October 2001
The Coat of Arms including the Crown of St
Stephen were formally re-adopted as the "lesser
arms" by Legislation of 3 July 1990, published in the
Official Gazette of 11 July 1990, while their inclusion on the
flag was made official under restricted circumstances by Article
11(4) of Law No. LXXXIII of 1995.
Full details are as follows: Law No. XLIV of 3 July 1990,
published in Magyar Közlöny of 11 July 1990 - "The Coat of
Arms of the Republic of Hungary is a vertically divided shield
with a rounded base coming to a point. The left field contains
eight horizontal bars of red and silver. The right field has a
background of red and depicts a base of three green hills with a
golden crown resting on the centre hill and a silver patriarchal
cross issuing from the middle of the crown. The Holy Crown of St.
Stephen rests on the top of the shield".
This was then inserted into the Constitution of the Republic of
Hungary as revised 23 October 1989, becoming Paragraph (2) of
Article 76. As a matter of interest Paragraph (1) reads:
"The National Flag of the Republic of Hungary is a tricolour
consisting of horizontal red, white and green bands of even
width".
The arms including the Crown were, of course, used in the
inter-war period as evidenced by the Flaggenbuch (if from no
other source) and on the Austro-Hungarian merchant flag, but
their detailed history is unknown to me.
Christopher Southworth, 7 and 9 October 2004
There is a very nice e-publication showing various versions of
the Hungarian arms at <misc.magyarorszag.hu>.
It is a governmental publication defining the Pantone, CMYK and
RGB colours for the Coat of Arms, as based on law MSZ 3500, dated
September 15, 1990. The site include official drawing
of the Coat of Arms in several vectorial formats (CDR, AI, EPS
etc): have a look at <www.magyarorszag.hu>
plus detailed colour guide for Pamtone, CMYK and RGB.
Jan Oskar Engene, Georges G. Kovari III and
Željko Heimer, 8 October 2004
I can confirm that the illustration of the arms shown on this
website appear to be (with one exception) an exact copy of an
official illustration I received from the Embassy of Hungary in
1999. The exception is in the shade of green used for
the cross's base, which is blue/green on the web pictures but
more like grass green on my illustration.
Christopher Southworth, 8 October 2004
I am not sure that the current Coat of Arms of Hungary chould
be named "Kossuth Coat of Arms",
because I think that Kossuth introduced arms without the crown
(in somewhat different shield shape, but that may well be
ignored). I seems to remember that Hungarians refer to Kossuth
Arms to those without the crown.
Željko Heimer, 10 October 2004
Kossuth Arms are those without the crown. After the fall of
communism there was a movement to adopt the Kossuth Arms as the
national Coat of Arms.
Thorsten, 10 October 2004
The Kossuth Arms' parts are the followings: in the left side
of the shield there are red and white stripes. Those are Árpád stripes. Our first kings
was from Árpád fejedelem (fejedelem - leader of the
united hungarian nomadic clans). They Used these stripes in
their heraldry. Hard-right wingers use flags with ONLY these
stripes on, so using only these stripes mean extreme right wing
here. The right side of the shield is with three mountain, and a
crown on top of the middle, and a double cross rising from that
crown. The double cross is our historical Catolicism's sign,
we used it from the beginning.
Palkó Dániel, 30 March 2006
