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![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa-gold.gif)
image by Tomislav Šipek, 09 February 2015
On http://www.alriyadh.com/508700
I found gold shahada and sword on green field. Does anyone know who uses this
flag?
Tomislav Šipek, 09 February 2015
This flag seems to be unusual indeed, but I think it's a variant of Saudi
flag with a more decorative mode. The article has no any flag relevance, it says
three sport-officials men meet in Kuwait in residence of Deputy General
President of Youth Welfare Prince Nawaf bin Faisal (of Saudi Arabia) during the
24th meeting of the Ministers of Youth and Sports and the heads of the Olympic
committees of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). The prince is head of this
committee.
While he is a prince of Saudi royal family, I suspect he can use Saudi flag with
this decorative version aka with gold shahada and sword. But it's only a
speculation. I haven't find any other information about it.
Zoltan Horvath, 15 February 2015
From the Tunisian blog "Waleg," 30 June 2007:
A serious decision has been taken by the Saudi authorities to come up with a second flag for Saudi Arabia … one that presents the most significant aspects of Saudi Arabia as a symbol of union so that it could be used in sports events and other occasions. This statement was given by Sheikh Abdallah Saleh Al Otheimin, who felt that the current flag is being degraded by events like Star Academy & other similar programs.It seems the Saudi citizens are glad to hear this news, because after seeing a singer or dancer holding the flag & dancing around… they would rather have it changed!
I have not found this information anywhere else, but I do not have access to Arabic-speaking sources.
Ivan Sache, 01 Jul 2007
![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa!topps.gif)
image by Eugene Ipavec , 16 Feb 2012
Flickr hosts scans of a 1950s series of Topps "Flags of the World" trading cards, including this unusual depiction of the flag of Saudi Arabia. There are two swords and a white stripe at the hoist, both mentioned at Historic Flags, Saudi Arabia (the stripe is usually explained as an exaggerated sleeve).
Eugene Ipavec, 16 Feb 2012
![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa_1950.jpg)
image located by William Garrison, 4 January 2024
This is the 1950s "Two-Sword" Saudi Arabia national-flag variant. There are
several controversies regarding the legitimacy of this flag. All of the letters
and swords have been very carefully stitched-sewn on this flag; it is not a
printed flag. There is a rope sewn into a narrow white-cloth hoist with metal
rings at both ends of the rope for raising up on a flagpole or naval jackstaff.
As the rope is not sewn into the green fabric, perhaps this very narrow
white-hoist-cloth supports the other comments that a "white panel" actually
existed on this flag rather than it being an "exaggerated sleeve".... or not, as
here the "white panel" is indeed very narrow. Perhaps this flag's manufacturer
thought: "Hey, close enough for government work." As Arabic is read
right-to-left, one would think that the right side of this flag would be the
proper "hoist" side. However, this flag-photo clearly shows that the rope-hoist
side is on the left. This flag-photo confirms that the Topps trading flag-card
correctly shows the hoist being on the left. This flag was located in an old
naval-antiques shop that obtained international flags out of a ship's "flag
room" when old, spent, well-battered merchant-marine ships were scrapped in
waterfront Seattle, WA, which is located in the northwest's blustery Puget
Sound. [see: comments of Martin Grieve, 04 November 2006 at The Evolution of the Flag of Saudi Arabia
William Garrison, 4 January 2024
A Saudi flag with black writing is shown in the poorly printed (and somewhat inaccurate) flag plates of a geographical atlas printed in Yugoslavia, the 1965 Geografski atlas i statističko-geografski pregled svijeta [y9u65].
Aleksandar Nemet, 18 Jun 2009
Not so much an inaccuracy; the black color used for the text on the Saudi flag looks caused by technical limitations.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 Jun 2009
![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa!m1888.gif)
image by Eugene Ipavec , 06 Apr 2012
...As depicted on a 1888 box of "Allen & Ginter's Cigarettes."
William Garrison and Eugene Ipavec, 18 Mar 2012
![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa1.jpg)
image by BlinxCat, 17 April 2022
This flag came from a set of large parade or "hand waving" flags made of a
painted cotton(?) created by a Flag Company in Ohio before the 1960s. The
writing and the sword on this flag match that of the pre-1970s specifications in
a way however there is clearly more "detail" being added onto this. Considering
it was hand-painted, the painters may have taken the liberty to make them
fancier with their skills or the flag manufacturers description of the flag was
not fully understandable.
BlinxCat, 17 April 2022
![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa_2.gif)
image by BlinxCat, 19 April 2022
based on photo
This Saudi Arabian flag is an Annin-made 4x6 inch table flag produced in the
1970s and was purchased from Nick Artimovich; it is before the later-on
standardization of the overall flag but some notable differences are seen.
-The text is rendered differently from the other variants.
-The sword's curve
is slightly different along with the handle grip being an oblong shape.
-Some
genuine examples of this variant show the shade of green varying from
bluish-green to lime green.
These are technically two variants due to my
findings of genuine examples from Annin.
BlinxCat, 19 April 2022
Slight graphic variations are seen between the two, due to a lack of both a
standardization (i.e. an absence of a construction sheet) and legal background
(Law procedures to define its specifications in design, material, color, etc.).
In fact, this is the 1938-1973 version of the flag, featuring a bigger font
Shahada and a sword below it, instead of the bayonet featured on the current
version. See here.
Esteban Rivera, 11 July 2022
![[Saudi Arabia]](../images/s/sa_nd.jpg)
image located by William Garrison, 30 January 2024
A green-field flag with a white-lettered Arabic slogan that reads: "The
Homeland is in our hearts", along with the national coat-of-arms of the country;
a commemorative flag celebrating Saudi Arabi's "National Day" on Sept. 23, 2020;
as seen in Riyadh.
Source:
https://en.majalla.com/node/287551/culture-social-affairs/saudi-flag-day-celebration-great-significance
William Garrison, 30 January 2024
