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It was noted that in Photographic Memories of Scotland (1995) many Scottish scenes from the period between 1890 and 1905 show flags in them. I noticed in several photos that red ensigns were flown from buildings ashore. I discovered that there seemed to be a break at the year 1900. In no photo prior to 1900 did I see a red ensign flown ashore, only Union Jacks. However in the 1900 and later photos, all flags flown ashore that I could identify were red ensigns, and NO Union Jacks. The pair of photos that brought this immediately to my attention were two of the same scene in different years. The scene is the Argyll Hotel in Dunoon. In a photo dated 1897 the Argyll Hotel and two nearby buildings are all flying Union Jacks. On the same page, in a photo dated 1904, the same three buildings are all flying red ensigns. Why are red ensigns being flown ashore? And why are they flown apparently to the exclusion of the Union Jack from 1900 to 1905 in these photos?
Devereaux Cannon
In 1902 - just about when it appears the Union Jack was eliminated from the
scenes in the book described above - it seems that moves were taken to in fact
grant it at least semi-official recognition as Britain's National Flag. This
transition seems to have started with Edward VII's coronation, and the
preparations therefore. In the spring of 1902, St Michael's Church, Folkestone,
purchased a new Royal Standard, (for the not inconsequential price of ten
pounds), with the full expectation that as loyal subjects they would be allowed
to fly it in conjunction with the coronation's festivities. Unfortunately, for
the parishioners of St Michael's, the King issued the now well-known general
prohibition against the use of His Royal Standard when he was not personally
present. Upset at their apparent waste of good money, the Rector of St Michael's
wrote to the Palace seeking an exception for his church. Not surprisingly, he
was denied special dispensation, but the King's secretary, (Lord Francis Knolly),
in an apparent attempt to ease the parish's disappointment, pointed out that
"..you can always fly the Union Jack".
This correspondence was revealed in the London Times of 7 June 1902, (p. 12.),
and apparently came as quite a surprise to many "in the know" for it seemed to
have sparked quite a controversy, with a series of editorials and letters to the
editor on the subject, running in the paper through to the end of the year. It
is also worth noting, in this regard, that the respected journal "Notes and
Queries" also had a spat of exchanges on the subject at about the same time. The
debate centred around the question: what is the British National Flag?; with
positions coalescing around the Red Ensign (since it is the private subject's
national flag at sea); and the Union Flag, (based upon the King's Private
Secretary's statement given to the Rector of St Michael's, quoted above). Those
in favour of the Red Ensign's usage ashore, claimed that Lord Knolly's statement
could only be considered a mere "obiter dictum", (i.e., an incidental
remark providing no basis for decision); but supporters of the Union Flag
suggested (and I think fairly) that "we may be sure that (his opinion) was not
given lightly". He did, after all, speak for the King. Since this debate was in
fact national - and included participants right across the UK - it seems
reasonable to suggest that the owners (or at least decision-makers) for the
Scottish hotels in the photographs (as well as, indeed, Scots in general) must
have been aware of the debate. Since
the debate was never really satisfactorily resolved, perhaps the owners
or decision makers for these hotels (and the people flying flags in the other
photos) once becoming aware of the debate, decided that the arguments proferred
in favour of the red ensign, vice the union flag, made more sense to
them, and as a result simply decided to switch flags.I would never bet my
mortgage on this, however; but I am afraid that in the absence of a piece of
evidence, in the mode of a "smoking gun" (such as an in-house memorandum
specifically explicating the change), I fear that reasoned speculation, (such as
I hope I have just presented) is all we have to go upon.
Glen Hodgins
The Union Flag (union jack) is used in the following ways at sea:
Joe McMillan, 4 June 2003
This statement might be true if applied only to merchant or other private
vessels--anyone know the flag rules for a royal visit to a non-state-owned
ship?
Joe McMillan, 4 June 2003
The flags which may legally be flown by a British merchant vessel are
exactly defined (as we know) and the UJ is not amongst them? The presence of
HM The Queen aboard a civil vessel would (I assume) mean it flying the Royal
Standard as a matter of course, but the remaining flags should remain
unaltered? If the rules for a royal visit aboard a vessel of Trinity House are
anything to go by, the Royal Standard is the only flag which acknowledges HM's
presence (although all allowed flags are flown including a jack whilst
underway).
Christopher Southworth, 4 June 2003
When under way a naval ship flies a Union Jack at the bow if it is flying the Royal Standard, or if it is escorting a ship flying the Royal Standard. Merchant ships vary. When King George V went to France in 1923 on the Southern Railway Steamship 'Biarritz', Naval Stores supplied a White Ensign, a Royal Standard and an Admiralty Flag, but not a Union Jack. [ADM 1/8650/237]
In 1939 King George VI went to Canada in the RMS Empress of Australia. The
Canadian Pacific House Flag was flown at the bow and the White Ensign at the
stern. However when the SS Gothic was used for a Royal Tour of Australia in
1951 it was arranged that a White Ensign or a Red Ensign would be flown, as
directed by the King; a Union Jack with the White Ensign, and the Company
House Flag with the Red Ensign. Princess Elizabeth had to take the place of
the King and the arranged procedure was followed, with Admiral Lambe advising
which ensign should be flown. [ADM 1/25471]
David Prothero, 4 June 2003
The actual flags flown were:
Jack: house flag of Shaw Savill and Albion Line (which was almost identical
to the NZ flag of the 1830s)
Foremast: Admiralty flag
Mizzenmast: Royal Standard
Ensign: Red Ensign
Also note that the year of the tour was in 1953-54
Miles Li, 4 June 2003
Instructions for folding the flag in preparation for breaking the flag can be
found at
https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/british-flags/flying-flags-in-the-united-kingdom/british-flag-protocol/#index5
Esteban Rivera, 11 October 2018
Admiralty Sessions, Old Bailey, Friday 25 April 1823. Solicitor's Department,
Customs.
King versus Marinel Krans and Others.
H.M.Revenue Cutter
'Badger' in the service of the Customs Department encountered a vessel that was
suspected of smuggling, and hoisted a red pendant and a Revenue Ensign as a
signal that the vessel was to heave-to. When it did not, an unshotted gun
was fired to draw attention to the signal. The vessel, which proved to be a
cutter named 'Four Brothers', continued on its way and hoisted no colours. A
shot was then fired into the 'Four Brothers', which returned the fire. After a
three hour engagement, in the course of which one member of the Custom cutter's
crew was killed, the 'Four Brothers' was boarded when off Dieppe and the
crew called for quarter.
At the trial the prosecution had to show that
the signal requiring a ship to stop, had been hoisted correctly. The relevant
regulation was an Order in Council of 1 February 1817. Before firing, a
Revenue Cutter should, "wear a pendant with a red field having a regal crown
described thereon at the upper part next the mast", and, "for an ensign a red
jack with a Union jack in a canton at the upper corner thereof next to the
staff, with a regal crown described in the centre of the red jack."
The
prosecution stated that before firing, a Revenue Pendant, having a red field
with a crown next the mast, was hoisted at the masthead, and a Revenue Ensign,
Union at the upper corner in a red field, at the peak-end.
Justice
Park, and King's Advocate Jervis, questioned the Revenue Cutter's Commander,
Henry Nazer, a Lieutenant in His Majesty's Navy, with a commission from the
Excise Department.
Park. Describe what the field of the ensign was.
Nazer. The field was red.
Park. Have you any technical term for that in the
navy ?
N. No. I should call it the Revenue Ensign.
Park. Is there any such
thing in your naval description as a jack ?
N. Yes.
Park. Had it a jack ?
N. Yes, at the corner.
Jervis. What was the Union jack in ?
N. In the
ensign.
Jervis. Have you any word to describe that ?
N. No.
Jervis.
Have you such a word as a 'canton' ?
N. No.
Jervis. At what corner was it
?
N. The upper corner next to the peak.
Jervis. Is that what you call the
staff ?
N. Yes, it should be.
Park. Tell us what it was, not what it
should be.
N. It was next the peak; the upper corner of the ensign.
Jervis. What is the peak ?
N. The gaff of the main sail.
Pendant and
ensign produced in court.
Park and Jervis question Badger's 1st Mate.
Park. Is that the ensign ?
1st Mate. Yes.
Park. Which would go next the
mast ?
1st Mate. This part (the end containing the Union jack).
Park. Is
there any regal crown there ?
1st Mate. Yes, in the centre.
Park. Do you
know the word 'jack' at all ?
1st Mate. Yes.
Park. Which is the 'jack' ?
1st Mate. This (pointing to it).
Park. Just open that part again where the
crown is in the ensign; what is that chequered thing in the middle ?
1st
Mate. That is what we call the Union. This (pointing to the red part) is what we
call the field.
Jervis. He does not know the term 'canton'. It is a term of
heraldry. Are those the usual signals ?
1st Mate. Yes, they are.
Park. And
you put them up before you fired the unshotted gun ?
1st Mate. Yes.
Gurney, prosecuting, and Brougham, defending, questioning John Ferrier,Vice-Admiral
of the Red.
Gurney. You saw the jack displayed just now ?
Admiral.
Yes.
G. Is that a red jack with the Union jack in a canton at the upper
corner ?
Admiral. It is usually called a Red Ensign, the 'jack' is commonly
called the 'canton'.
Judge. Is that an ensign; a red jack with a Union jack
in a canton at the upper corner there, next the staff, and with a regal crown
described in the centre of the red jack ?
Admiral. It is what is usually
called a red ensign.
Judge. Does it bear that character ?
Admiral. Yes it
does, it is the usual way in which ensigns are made.
Brougham. What is a
canton ?
Admiral. It is generally understood as the upper part of the ensign,
next to the staff, where the Union jack is fixed, attached to the ensign.
B.
Is it not a part of the flag partitioned off by a separate division ?
Admiral. It is attached to it. It is what they call the Union jack, which forms
the ensign, and is a quarter of the flag.
B. Is it not enclosed in lines of
some different colour ?
Admiral. The Union jack is formed of different
colours.
B. You say, if I understand you, that the ensign and Union jack is
in the canton ?
Admiral. No, it is termed the canton.
B. The Union jack is
called a canton of itself ?
Admiral. No, I do not mean to say that.
B. Is
it in a canton ?
Admiral. Yes, it is in a canton.
B. Is the Union jack in
a canton; is that the nature of the thing ?
Admiral. I do not exactly
understand you.
B. You tell me the Union jack is in a canton.
Admiral. I
tell you what is generally done.
B. Does that not imply that the Union jack
is in a part called the canton ?
Admiral. I did not exactly understand
before. The ensign is to be considered as composed of four cantons.
B. What
do you understand by 'Union jack in a canton' ?
Admiral. As forming one part
of the ensign. Supposing it divided into four parts, that in the upper part of
it; and it is generally hoisted next the mast or ensign staff.
B. You would
call those four parts the canton ?
Admiral. I suppose so. I do not know that
it is so.
B. It appears that the jack is in one of the four cantons ?
Admiral. Yes.
Justice Park in summing up said.
"On the subject of the
canton, which is an heraldic phrase and, which every person acquainted with the
subject knows, forms a small district in that ensign separated from the rest and
surrounded with crowns. That is the description in books of heraldry of what
a canton is. Therefore I think upon that part of the case it is as well to
relieve your minds from it at the outset."
Krans and the crew were
acquitted by what the judge called 'a merciful jury', as the ship was foreign
owned and more than half of the crew were foreign born. The seizure was made off
Dieppe, which was within 'limit for natives' but beyond 'limit for
foreigners'. Locally it was known, but not proved, that most of the crew were
English simulating ignorance of the English language, and that the vessel's
owner lived in Folkestone.
[National Archives (PRO) CUST 143/11]
David
Prothero, 30 December 2008
The Union Jack only goes in the centre of an odd number of flagpoles if the
other poles are empty, or the central pole is taller than the others (quite
common in Britain). Otherwise it is left to right as in the USA. We used to have
a very complex centre, left of centre, right of centre, left of left of centre,
right of right of centre, etc. A complete nightmare that no one understood so we
scrapped it. Left to right is so much simpler and the general public can
understand it. We also discourage flagpoles of different heights in the same
stand as these make things so much more complex.
Graham Bartram, 8 December 2007
An amendment to the 1993 Local Government Regulations specifically exempts
our national flags from planning restriction. This means that, where before we
needed local planning permission to raise a flagpole (often very difficult if
not nearly impossible to get), we can now do so without applying for Local
Government consent providing it is to fly the flags of the UK, England, Scotland
or Wales (if there is an extension of this I would be interested to hear about
it).
Christopher Southworth, 17 September 2003
From:
http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/odpm_planning/documents/page/odpm_plan_606840.hcsp:
Class 7 in Schedule 3 is sub-divided (by Regulation 6) into Classes 7A and 7B.
The present Class 7 in the 1992 Regulations (an advertisement in the form of a
flag on a single flagstaff projecting vertically from the roof of a building)
becomes Class 7A but is otherwise unchanged.
From:
http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/groups/odpm_planning/documents/page/odpm_plan_606218-03.hcsp#TopOfPage:
A national flag of any country. Any national flag may be flown on a single
vertical flagstaff, so long as it does not have anything added to the design of
the flag or any advertising material added to the flagstaff.
Thus, if my understanding of all the wordage is correct, a flagpole may be erected anywhere, now, within the curtilage of a property, not just projecting from the roof; if:
Marten Gallagher, 18 May 2004
A change in the law in September 2012 has resulted in flags which can now be flown without permission:
What constitutes a flag under English Law?
As far as I can find, the term "flag" is nowhere defined in English
constitutional law, although the term occurs in (for example) the Local
Government Regulations in it is apparently assumed that the definition is as is
generally understood. It is very probable, however, that in common law anything
which is designed to look like (or represent) a flag could and probably would be
so considered. In other words, to burn a paper representation of the Union Flag
is to burn the Union Flag?
Is the law different for Scotland?
I don't know
Are there penalties in either or both legal systems for flag desecration?
I cannot comment about Scottish law, but under English law the desecration of a
flag is not (in itself and of itself) a crime, however, in so doing the
perpetrator could possibly be committing another offence?
Does this apply also to the desecration of foreign flags?
Yes it does.
Ron Lahav and responses by Christopher Southworth, 14 April 2004
The speech [by Communities Secretary Eric Pickles] was the keynote at the Flag Institute's Spring Meeting.
The official press release can be found at
http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/corporate/1903468.
In it he suggested relaxation of flag flying rules. There are no firm
proposals as yet, only a desire to make the flag flying rules less restrictive.
There will be consultations by the Department of Communities and Local
Government with interested parties before firm, detailed proposals are put
before Parliament.
Ian Sumner, 16 May 2011
Which flags do not need consent?
The government's list of flags that do
not require consent used to include the European flag, but it was removed from
the list following Brexit:
Any country's national flag, civil ensign or civil
air ensign.
The flag of the Commonwealth or the United Nations or any other
international organisation of which the UK is a member.
A flag of any island,
county, district, borough, burgh, parish, city, town or village within the UK.
The flag of the Black Country, East Anglia, Wessex, any Part of Lincolnshire,
any Riding of Yorkshire or any historic county within the UK.
The flag of St
David.
The flag of St Patrick.
The flag of any administrative area within
any country outside the UK.
Any flag of His Majesty's forces.
The Armed
Forces Day flag.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news
Jason Saber, 23 May 2024
Use and Status of the Flag continued
