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image by António Martins, Željko Heimer
and Ralf Stelter, 18 Sep 1999
In 1990, the Mordovian ASSR
(a constituent of the Soviet Union,
integrated in the
Russian Republic), upgraded
itself to the status of SSR, and
had this reflected on a new flag, slight modification
of the previous: the "A" is removed from the trilingual
inscription of the soviet flag: Russian, Erzian Mordovian
and Mokshian Mordovian.
António Martins, 16 Sep 1999
This design is confirmed by photographs
taken of the White House, where these
flags were flying, and from the
Parliament, when there they were
arranged along the wall behind the
speaker’s desk. The
book Politisches Lexikon Rußland
(Roland Götz and Uwe Halbach, 1994, Beck,
München) confirms that in December
1990 the Mordovian ASSR was changed
by law to the Mordovian SSR!
The only facts we have about a
transitory flag are photographs from
the White House where the flag flying
had the three inscriptions (but
reduced to "SSR" instead of "ASSR"), the
same flag hanging in the parliament,
also to be seen on video recordings I
have. The videos show the flag
sometimes very small, that sometimes I
could assume that the
other version is shown.
Ralf Stelter, 25 Jul 1999
image by António Martins, 20 Aug 1999
I saw (and also I have the image video-recorded
many times) one flag of Mordovia, in July 1992 in the
Soviet of Nationalities of this date. Was red with
blue vertical stripe at hoist, but instead of the
hammer and sickle and inscriptions was a yellow
circle and below three small bars.
Jaume Ollé, 13 Jul 1999
Could it be a normal Mordvian
ASSR flag with wiped out symbols and letters, lacking
a proper new flag?… Please note that this may have been
so, but the disc couldn't cover the star and be circular
at the same time, without reaching the blue stripe.
So, either the disc was elliptical, or it did reach
the blue stripe, or the star was not covered by the
circle, being either conserved or removed.
António Martins, 24 Jul 1999
This might eventually be an old flag
with overprinted hammer and sickle and letters. In
Russian or Soviet flags the emblems were
printed onto the red cloth (silk
screen, the two flags we have are
printed with a very thick plastic-like
colour) so it is not difficult to
remove the small star by scratching it
off, while the larger elements had to
be overprinted.
Ralf Stelter, 25 Jul 1999
This suggestion only applies to the version of the
flag with initials only because the full name is too
large; in the video recorded flag, the circle and bars
are in small size.
Jaume Ollé, 24 Jul 1999
image by Molnár István, 01 Jul 2002
This design is given in Flagmaster 072
[flm], page 11.
Molnár István, 01 Jul 2002
It is a big fiction! This flag never existed.
I think it is fantasy of Mr. Tarnovsky.
Victor Lomantsov, 02 Jul 2002
image by António Martins, 24 Jul 1999
In September and November 1993 were reported
(quoted from any Russian vexillologist or/and
published in any Bulletin) different
flags with four colours (blue, white, yellow and red)
in two different arrangements (horizontal B-R-Y and W
at hoist; and B-R-W-Y horizontal).
Jaume Ollé, 13 Jul 1999 and 24 Jul 1999
This could be striped versions
of the old ASSR flag as “poor man’s
flags” or as proposals (by whom?) to
abolish the ASSR flag.
Ralf Stelter, 25 Jul 1999
image by António Martins, 24 Jul 1999
In September and November 1993 were reported
(quoted from any Russian vexillologist or/and
published in any Bulletin) different
flags with four colours (blue, white, yellow and red)
in two different arrangements (horizontal
B-R-Y and W at hoist; and B-R-W-Y horizontal).
Jaume Ollé, 13 Jul 1999 and 24 Jul 1999
image by Željko Heimer, 27 May 1996
This design was shown in
several flag magazines (who copied
each other), originally coming
from a Russian source (when
I remember correctly it was Oleg
Tarnovski).
Ralf Stelter, 25 Jul 1999
This flag is listed under number 87 at the chart Flags
of Aspirant Peoples [eba94] as:
«Mordovia (Mordovians) [Moksha] - Central Russia».
Ivan Sache, 15 Sep 1999
This flag is fictional.
Ben Cahoon, 19 November 2020
